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Nikola Jokic

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Joel Embiid

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"Is the Joel Embiid–Nikola Jokić rivalry a genuine personal feud, and what specific incidents and contexts created the tension between them?"

Is the Joel Embiid–Nikola Jokić rivalry a real personal feud or a competition amplified by media and fans? Their public interactions are best described as competitive rivalry: a late-game physical play on Nov. 9, 2019 flagged by the NBA Last Two Minute report and Joel Embiid’s 47-point outing in Philadelphia on Jan. 28, 2023 are concrete flashpoints [1][2][7]. Both players have also exchanged public praise—Jokić during the 2022–23 MVP race and Embiid after a Jan. 17, 2024 postgame hug—suggesting mutual respect rather than sustained personal animosity [4][9].

Quick Facts

Beef Started
Nov. 9, 2019
Status
Competitive; mutual respect
Key Trigger
NBA L2M finding on Nov. 9, 2019
Teams Affected
Philadelphia 76ers; Denver Nuggets
Result
Embiid won 2022–23 MVP (May 2, 2023)
Notable Game
Embiid 47 pts, Jan. 28, 2023

How It Started

Before any public friction, Joel Embiid and Nikola Jokić occupied overlapping spaces as the NBA’s premier centers: Jokić entered the 2020s as a multi-year MVP-level player and Embiid emerged as a dominant statistical center entering the 2022–23 season, making head-to-head comparisons inevitable [5]. The first documented, league-verified incident that seeded controversy occurred on Nov. 9, 2019. In that Denver–Philadelphia game the NBA Last Two Minute report concluded "Jokic placed his hand on the opposite side of Embiid’s hip" and stated a personal foul should have been called on Jokić instead of an offensive foul on Embiid; that late-game play decided the contest and provided a concrete example of contested physicality between the two that media and fans later referenced [1]. Over the following seasons their matchups became proxies for larger debates about who was the league’s best big man. On Jan. 28, 2023 Embiid produced a widely-cited 47-point performance in Philadelphia against Jokić, a game often invoked in MVP-era narratives about the two players’ relative value [2][7][8]. From these moments emerged two parallel storylines: documented, on-court incidents that could be cited as grievances, and a statistical rivalry tied to individual awards. Early signs of tension in public discourse were therefore less about private animus and more about high-stakes competition—with specific plays (Nov. 9, 2019) and high-profile box-score results (Jan. 28, 2023) acting as inciting elements [1][2][7].

Timeline of Events

Timeline

Where Things Stand

As of the latest sourced reporting through Jan. 2024, the Embiid–Jokić relationship is best described as competitive and publicly cordial rather than a documented personal feud. The most recent direct interaction in this corpus is Embiid’s account of a Jan. 17, 2024 postgame exchange in which he said he told Jokić "he's the best player in the league"—a primary-source quote indicating professional respect [9]. The Jan. 27, 2024 Denver scratch reignited fan 'ducking' chants and viral posts but those reactions are based on timing and were not corroborated by independent medical or team-source disclosures in the cited reporting [5][6][3]. No high-reliability source in the research corpus documents sustained private animus between Embiid and Jokić; existing evidence points to episodic on-court incidents, competitive performances, and media/fan amplification rather than an interpersonal feud [1][2][5][9].

Different Perspectives

The Joel Embiid Perspective

From Embiid's view the dynamic is a high-stakes competitive rivalry amplified by awards and media, not a sustained personal feud. He points to documented on-court performances and deflects 'ducking' claims by citing medical availability and respect for Jokic's accomplishments.

  • Embiid delivered a signature 47-point performance against Jokic on Jan. 28, 2023, a game he and his supporters use to demonstrate head-to-head superiority [2][7].
  • Embiid accepted the 2022–23 NBA MVP on May 2, 2023, framing the season-long competition as resolved by voters rather than personal animus [5].
  • When scratched in Denver on Jan. 27, 2024 the team listed knee/calf issues; Embiid later defended his availability choices and praised Jokic publicly, saying missing one game should not be overinterpreted [3][5].
  • After a Jan. 17, 2024 matchup Embiid reported telling Jokic 'he's the best player in the league,' indicating a posture of professional respect in public interactions [9].

The Nikola Jokic Perspective

From Jokic's vantage the relationship is competitive and measured: he acknowledged Embiid's talent publicly and treated head-to-head games as part of normal elite-player rivalry. Jokic's comments suggest respect rather than personal grievance.

  • Jokic publicly praised Embiid during the 2022–23 MVP conversation, saying 'I think he’s a great player' which signals professional regard amid award contention [4].
  • There is a league-documented contested physical play from Nov. 9, 2019 where the NBA L2M report concluded Jokic had contact on Embiid’s hip, but Jokic did not publicly escalate the matter in media coverage [1].
  • Jokic continued to be described in media as the two-time defending MVP entering the 2022–23 season, framing his interactions with Embiid around on-court competition for honors rather than personal conflict [5].
  • Public postgame exchanges, including the Jan. 17, 2024 meeting described by Embiid, show cordiality rather than ongoing confrontation between the players [9].

The Fan and Media Perspective

Fans and some media outlets treated episodic incidents and absences as evidence of avoidance or a grudge, amplifying narratives beyond documented facts. Viral reactions—especially after availability decisions—shaped public perception more than direct quotes from the players did.

  • The NBA L2M report from Nov. 9, 2019 was repeatedly cited by fans and commentators as proof of tangible physical grievance between the players [1].
  • Embiid's Jan. 27, 2024 late scratch in Denver produced 'Where's Embiid?' chants and talkSPORT headlined viral 'ducking' claims, illustrating how availability can be reframed into avoidance narratives on social media [6][3].
  • Embiid’s 47-point game on Jan. 28, 2023 was amplified in highlight packages and used by fanbases to argue MVP and pecking-order points, showing how single games feed social-media debate [2][7][8].
  • Higher-reliability outlets balanced viral claims with direct quotes of mutual praise (Jokic on March 28, 2023; Embiid on Jan. 17, 2024), which moderated purely adversarial narratives [4][9].

FAQ

Are Joel Embiid and Nikola Jokic still feuding?

As of the most recent reporting through Jan. 2024, their public interactions show competition and mutual professional respect rather than a documented personal feud; Embiid reported telling Jokic 'he's the best player in the league' after a Jan. 17, 2024 exchange [9].

What started the beef between Joel Embiid and Nikola Jokic?

The earliest documented contested incident in the publicly sourced record is the Nov. 9, 2019 play where the NBA L2M report concluded Jokic placed his hand on Embiid's hip and said a personal foul should have been called, creating a factual grievance cited later by media and fans [1].

What happened between Embiid and Jokic in Jan. 28, 2023?

On Jan. 28, 2023 Joel Embiid scored 47 points in Philadelphia's win over the Denver Nuggets; the performance is widely cited as a marquee head-to-head victory and a data point in MVP-era comparisons with Jokic [2][7][8].

Did the NBA say Jokic committed a foul on Embiid in 2019?

Yes. The NBA Officiating Last Two Minute report for the Nov. 9, 2019 game stated 'Jokic placed his hand on the opposite side of Embiid’s hip' and concluded a personal foul should have been called on Jokic instead of an offensive foul on Embiid [1].

Why did fans claim Embiid was 'ducking' Jokic in January 2024?

Embiid was a late scratch for the Jan. 27, 2024 game in Denver with knee/calf issues; fan chants and social posts turned the absence into viral 'Where's Embiid?' or 'ducking' narratives despite official medical reporting of the scratch [5][6][3].

Did Embiid or Jokic publicly call each other out?

No high-reliability sources in the corpus document direct public accusations between the players; instead, there are on-the-record mutual praise quotes—Jokic praising Embiid on Mar. 28, 2023 and Embiid praising Jokic after a Jan. 17, 2024 postgame exchange—which indicate professional respect [4][9].

How did Embiid winning the 2022–23 MVP affect the rivalry?

Embiid's May 2, 2023 MVP win over two-time defending winner Jokic crystallized season-long comparisons into a definitive award outcome, intensifying fan and media debate about which center defined the era, though it did not produce documented personal conflict between the players [5].

Is the 'ducking' narrative supported by team medical reports?

Reporting attributes Embiid's Jan. 27, 2024 absence to knee/calf issues as listed by the 76ers; media and fans amplified the absence into 'ducking' claims, but the cited beats treated it as an injury designation rather than confirmed avoidance [5][3][6].

Sources

  1. [1]NBA report states Joel Embiid was actually fouled by Nikola Jokic with .9 of a second leftThe Philadelphia Inquirer
  2. [2]Joel Embiid Leads 76ers to Win Over Nikola Jokic and the NuggetsSports Illustrated
  3. [3]‘I don’t care’: Joel Embiid responds to criticism about missing one game against Nikola JokićThe Philadelphia Inquirer
  4. [4]Nikola Jokic Praises Joel Embiid Amid Heated MVP RaceSports Illustrated
  5. [5]76ers’ Joel Embiid beats Nikola Jokic to win his first NBA MVP awardThe Guardian
  6. [6]'Always ducking Jokic' - Fans claim footage shows why Joel Embiid hasn't played in Denver in over five yearstalkSPORT
  7. [7]Full Focus: Joel Embiid shuts down Nikola Jokic and the NuggetsNBA.com
  8. [8]Holy $@!&, Joel Embiid — the big man delivers MVP-caliber performance vs. Nikola Jokic, NuggetsLiberty Ballers (FanSided)
  9. [9]76ers News: Joel Embiid Reveals Postgame Conversation With Nikola JokicSports Illustrated